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Araneatrox
12-13-2010, 07:39 AM
Anyone else slightly miffed that MLG is unranked? Dont get me wrong im just glad i dont every have to get noobed by the AR anymore. But some things just don't seem right in randomly sticking everyone in the same playlist at an equal footing Imo.

Last night i actually heard someone say on my team while playing MLG Countdown 5F
"GG Bungie for making a terrible map Rockets and sniper, what were they thinking" Things like this really make me /facepalm.

I really do hope that Kc sorts out a comprehensive list of rankings for the playlist so it can be ranked and Obj at the same time.

ThisGuyPwnage
12-13-2010, 08:07 AM
the thing is that there is a rank but its unseen and its used for setting up players of the same skill plus the extra skill option lets you play with the top notch that you can

and if there was a rank then people would play not for the rank and to "get a 50" but to practice for mlg and gb.

also you dont find people trying to derank.. which for me is awesome

Araneatrox
12-13-2010, 08:30 AM
I will admit that derankers aren't as prevalent as they used to be but they still exist.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=367019039&player=TLN%20Araneatrox

I do however hope this "Unseen Skill Ranking" Sorts out everyone later on at some point. Because atm the playlist seems furious with fools.

Lefthanded
12-13-2010, 08:31 AM
I prefer no rank...tbh i'd prefer if guests were allowed if the party size is 8. Lans+credits = win. haha

Forbidd3n
12-13-2010, 08:46 AM
i still see plenty of people quitting. Hopefully in a week or two the ranks establish and some good games will occur

Antidote
12-13-2010, 10:12 AM
I love it not being ranked. I hear so many more GG's after games now. Just a sign of less immaturity when people aren't fighting for ranks. I understood being pissed off when you lost. Back in H3 though when the other team lost and got pissed, part of me just wanted to say "Your Eleven....you will be OK I promise." Now with out the rank I have less prepubescent boys screaming at me. IMO I would love for Bungie to incorporate a ranked AND unranked playlist. One you can chill in with some friends, and one you can put on your try hard pants and go to work.

epyonjk
12-13-2010, 10:26 AM
There is no reason for a number to be next to your name. The true skill system is fine. Soon with games under the system it will choose games more effectively. If you want to work on something work on your game. Your shot, teamwork, and decision making can always get better so you dont need a number next to your name to give motivation to play.

DaMuSiCFiEnD
12-13-2010, 10:36 AM
I actually like that it's not ranked, playing with people who just play for the practice is better than people who play just to get ranked. The mixture of random players is great in my opinion, because not knowing whether or not the people you are playing are good makes who your playing more interesting. Also no derankers, that I've seen.

Benjak
12-13-2010, 11:04 AM
if you search in skill, you will get matched up with people with your skill. It's funny because I seem to get matched up with pros/semi pros on a weekly basis :)

Jewjitsu
12-13-2010, 11:54 AM
i definitely prefer unranked. you don't have to worry about losing a level when u get matched up with retards, which for me is often. i frequently get matched up with people who don't even know what MLG is, i think i'm gonna try preferring skill.

Justin21
12-13-2010, 12:26 PM
I think the whole rank issue is bungies way of saying, "In halo 3 we had to many problems with people cheating, selling account, and illegal isp use". If you look at how many cases of pros getting there accounts hacked (not to say it will still happen) and just people in general, I think Bungie is trying to send a message that this a community game that can be competitive, but wont be made for the use of personal gain. Thats just my 2 cents.

Chicken
12-13-2010, 12:45 PM
I personally HATE the face that it's unranked. I dislike that the playlist is unranked because it take alot of the competive nature out of MLG and it's just another Team Slayer playlist but with MLG settings. I find that when i am playing the MLG playlist i get people who are a bit clueless and have no idea what to do, part of this is contributed by the fact that Bungie made MLG the only playlist possible to play without the new map pack. Bungie has done it again :/

Inexist
12-13-2010, 12:50 PM
I prefer no Rank so much more maturity and lots more of GG's at the end which I like to see .

Antidote
12-13-2010, 12:53 PM
I personally HATE the face that it's unranked. I dislike that the playlist is unranked because it take alot of the competive nature out of MLG and it's just another Team Slayer playlist but with MLG settings. I find that when i am playing the MLG playlist i get people who are a bit clueless and have no idea what to do, part of this is contributed by the fact that Bungie made MLG the only playlist possible to play without the new map pack. Bungie has done it again :/

You can play every playlist with out the new map packs. The only one you can't is the DLC playlist because well its obvious. Even back when MLG was ranked you still got people who were clueless. That part isn't Bungies fault at all. Also it's not another TS playlist with MLG settings. It has obj. in it. It is a lot different then TS or any playlist in Reach. It makes the game so much better IMO.

Haced
12-13-2010, 01:08 PM
I definitely prefer this now. No more selling 50's, and less deranking. Plus nobody is "afraid to go in on their 50".

Hylian
12-13-2010, 01:16 PM
Having no visible rank is fine, but it doesn't seem to wirk for me atm.
I'm just tired of getting matched up with teamates that have no idea what they're doing...

iHade
12-13-2010, 01:29 PM
Blame de-rankers and boosters for this problem this is bungie way of sayin F*ck you to them and i personally agree with it coz it ruined H3

cF WiNGER
12-13-2010, 01:48 PM
i do also like having no rank. with how ranking systems work in reach, or for arena, it is based on individual skill. that is why i won't play arena anymore since mlg is out, people just worrying about themselves. in mlg so far until the true skill gets sorted out, you still find people like that, but it will change. what i don't like even more is how often i get teamed with people with no mics, or how 98% of the time it is team slayer. i mean if you vote for slayer every time go play arena, mlg is objective based too. i am a HUGE fan of objective games get upset some days when i don't get to play one objective gametype. again, once the true skill seperates the mlg players from the arena/slayer players trying it out i think it will get better. just have to suck it up through these first few weeks.

Harsh
12-13-2010, 01:52 PM
Now that I've been playing it more, I have actually been getting paired up with pretty good people.

F1R3
12-13-2010, 01:59 PM
I agree i think the lack of a visible rank helps to stop boosters, cheaters, derankers. I also have run across quitters, but not nearly as much as i used to. The MLG playlist and V2 settings especially really have helped me get interested in Reach again. Arena was fun, but all Slayer all the time gets old. Thankfully with the new play list there is a great mix of Obj and slayer gametypes

Bilalian
12-13-2010, 02:23 PM
Having no visible rank is fine, but it doesn't seem to wirk for me atm.
I'm just tired of getting matched up with teamates that have no idea what they're doing...

Word, Maybe it will take everyone a few days of actual play to match up against people that are your and everyone elses true skill. I dont even go in alone anymore cause your guranteed either bad team mates, or kids with no mics. It almost happend to me every single game, when i go in alone. ;/

itwuzmagik
12-13-2010, 03:04 PM
I'm kind of split on this b/c the absence of rank kind of makes it fun but with rank I get better practice so Idk yet.

Rolo
12-13-2010, 03:09 PM
I like it unranked b/c the fact that your going into a match not know the other "Team Skill".

Araneatrox
12-13-2010, 04:27 PM
I like it unranked b/c the fact that your going into a match not know the other "Team Skill".

Thats one of the things i dislike about it, not knowing enemy skill and your own team skill is rather off putting to me. But tonight im going to try searching for skill rather than fastest see if that helps.

First Option
12-13-2010, 09:32 PM
I don't think their is a proper playlist for MLG. In Halo 3, you had boosters/derankers. Granted I wasn't a level 50 so I can't speak for them. But it really hindered the playlist greatly. In Reach, a rating is almost pointless. You don't get credit for teamwork as greatly as you would before. Assists are difficult to obtain and you get little credit for finishing your teammates kills regardless if your helping the team by listening to communication. I'm not sure how you make a ranked system for MLG. But I do feel we need one that matters so if your getting destroyed 11-4 off start, your teammate doesn't bail on you. Same thing for the other team, you want to keep playing if your destroying off the start. For now, changing to4s to play other to4s vs randoms is my only concern. I'm just glad I'm playing MLG vs arena when noone is on.

SirSniffles
12-15-2010, 05:41 PM
in H3 Rank meant nothing. My highskill was 46 but I'd beat the crap outta 50's on the reg. Rank meant nothing then and it means nothing now. Play to be the best you can and for fun, not for some number thats useless.