Boss Nasti Possible Copyright Issue???

[RagingChickens]

Now I am not sure whether or not TLN has anything trademarked or copyrighted or anything along those lines, but I do know that what happened here was that Boss Nasti recorded the stream from the 4 team lan. Obviously you have to pay to watch the lan's, and what happened here is that he is allowing people to watch it for free on YouTube. This could be a non-issue, but I just wanted to bring it to an admin's attention.
(Please don't flame. If this is in the wrong place, please redirect me. I mean no harm.)

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnblnoD8iAg&feature=autofb

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhmEs7fmeSo&feature=autofb

[wookiemanx]

unless he has permission from Mr. P I'm pretty sure he can't post that.
I'm not a lawyer but it would seem to me that the terms of service provided prohibit this here.

This license does not include the right to: (a) use the Service or Materials for other than for its intended purpose, including but not limited to any marketing, selling, or other commercial uses(c) publish, publicly perform or display, or distribute to any third party any Materials, including reproduction or hosting the Materials on any computer network or broadcast or publications media;
good catch.

[Imp3nded]

Good find! Take this down off of youtube!

[heuer89]

Wow. Straight from the ToS (http://thelannetwork.com/home/terms/):



heLanNetwork grants you a limited license to make personal use of the Service to access and review the Materials for your information purposes only. This license does not include the right to: (a) use the Service or Materials for other than for its intended purpose, including but not limited to any marketing, selling, or other commercial uses; (b) use framing techniques to enclose any portion of the Service, including any images found on the Service or any text or the layout or design of any page or form contained on a page; (c) publish, publicly perform or display, or distribute to any third party any Materials, including reproduction or hosting the Materials on any computer network or broadcast or publications media; (d) make derivative uses of the Service or the Materials; or (e) any systematic collection or extraction of data through the use of any data mining, robots or similar data gathering or extraction methods.


Unless there is expressed consent from Mr P for its use: I really do hope that Mr P or Towey (or whoever runs TLN's YouTube account) files copyright claims on both these videos. In my opinion, this should also include a ban from using any part of TLN what-so-ever. I could write more, but don't feel like getting too mad right now...

EDIT: Just found this as well



Any violation of TheLanNetwork Code of Conduct policy will result in a judiciary membership review and can lead to account termination and lifetime ban withstanding all further access to membership content. Any actions deemed necesarry for account termination will result in zero refunded payments.

[RagingChickens]

Yeah I highly doubt he had Mr. P's permission.

[C0ACHMAYNE]

o Boss Nasti, what a douche

[Dust]

I listened to his commentary and all he was saying was how bad they were and how little stratagies they had lol.

He said he would rate everyone at the lan a 1/10.



what a joke.

[Shelly]

Well, let's get this guy off of TLN then! :)

[squeak2199]

Yeah I guess he should it down. It could just be a simple mistake.

However I don't agree with people saying that he is a joke. He can nearly always pick up on why a person dies etc. In the LAN alot of the time Instinct were just pushing randomly and not together. They really didn't have any good teamwork. An example would be someone would call out one shot and a teammate would run half way round the map trying to get to it while paying to attention to the other guys on the map which usually ended in the one shot staying alive while the instinct teammate got killed.

[Jakerdot]

pretty much for the lols

[theBEAST385]

WOW! Nice find RC! Boss Nasti needs to be locked up!

[Jakerdot]

wait lol i just watched one of those videos hahaha now I KNOW its for the luls

[RagingChickens]

I know some of you don't agree with what he is saying and stuff like that, and I am not saying that I agree with what he is saying, but that is a different issue. The issue here is the legal stuff. So I'm certaintly not yelling at you or anything, I am just asking that we try to stick to the facts of the matter.

[Az13luE]

His commentary gave me a head ache >.<

[SullyVan]

nice find man, hopefully they do something about this guy!

[-Drewsky-]

this guy BOSS NASTi is a local of mine, he is a total wannabe and thinks he has what it takes to make gaming a career.he has been banned my MLGPRO.com and they banned his IP Address.we need him off this site ASAP!

[Brixxx]

everyone comment on the video tell this guy how sad his life is he needs to get the fxck out of competitive gaming

[ZF_West]

Boss nasti is retarded he got banned from gb and pretty much every site lol

[Annexin]

We, as a community, gave him a chance. He blew that chance. Now get him outta here!

Sum's it up all in one post.

[ZF_West]

yup very true

[TACO]

We, as a community, gave him a chance. He blew that chance. Now get him outta here!

THIS! Enough said

[BOSS NASTi]

Now I am not sure whether or not TLN has anything trademarked or copyrighted or anything along those lines, but I do know that what happened here was that Boss Nasti recorded the stream from the 4 team lan. Obviously you have to pay to watch the lan's, and what happened here is that he is allowing people to watch it for free on YouTube. This could be a non-issue, but I just wanted to bring it to an admin's attention.
(Please don't flame. If this is in the wrong place, please redirect me. I mean no harm.)

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnblnoD8iAg&feature=autofb

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhmEs7fmeSo&feature=autofb

Before any of you start thinking that your in the right, I'll start off by saying that there is nothing that TLN can do because they themselves have manipulated the gameplay itself by adding content to the gameplay screen itself. You all should Watch This Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7h0Cq2iWOM) which explains that Game Publishers own all the rights to any games that are streamed or publicly used anywhere besides being played on the game itself in a closed environment. So technically TLN has actually breached legal terms with Bungie as everyone has who uploads Halo Gameplay to Youtube or anywhere else.

This is why a Company like Machinima has to pay Activision a Copyright Fee to upload Call of Duty gameplay because they make so much money off of it. TLN doesn't even have the right to come after me because it's not their copyright for the gameplay, it's Activisions. Also since I'm not going around saying that I'm apart of TLN or anything of that sort or trying to pass it off as my own then there is no legal action that they could take either.

Even MLG has to pay Bungie to stream & for other things just to use Reach on the circuit. There's a whole legal world that the majority of you know nothing about, so you shouldn't form an opinion based off something you have an insufficient amount of knowledge in.

On top of all this is anything I'm just promoting for them. So why would they even thing of doing anything to me, they would just be losing a source of Advertisement for them. Some of you should honestly try thinking & using your brains once & a while before you open your mouths.

p.s.- The only way that I would be breaking any legal terms of service with TLN would be if I recorded anything but gameplay from them. Then this would apply.

Also if TLN was to actually ban me then they themselves would breach their own TOS which would go against their own rules that they have set & just overall make them look bad.

[Joe Fries]

Words cannot express how ridiculous you sound.

QFT. Boss Nasti, just leave.

[Joe Fries]

Before any of you start thinking that your in the right, I'll start off by saying that there is nothing that TLN can do because they themselves have manipulated the gameplay itself by adding content to the gameplay screen itself. You all should Watch This Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7h0Cq2iWOM) which explains that Game Publishers own all the rights to any games that are streamed or publicly used anywhere besides being played on the game itself in a closed environment. So technically TLN has actually breached legal terms with Bungie as everyone has who uploads Halo Gameplay to Youtube or anywhere else.

This is why a Company like Machinima has to pay Activision a Copyright Fee to upload Call of Duty gameplay because they make so much money off of it. TLN doesn't even have the right to come after me because it's not their copyright for the gameplay, it's Activisions. Also since I'm not going around saying that I'm apart of TLN or anything of that sort or trying to pass it off as my own then there is no legal action that they could take either.

Even MLG has to pay Bungie to stream & for other things just to use Reach on the circuit. There's a whole legal world that the majority of you know nothing about, so you shouldn't form an opinion based off something you have an insufficient amount of knowledge in.

On top of all this is anything I'm just promoting for them. So why would they even thing of doing anything to me, they would just be losing a source of Advertisement for them. Some of you should honestly try thinking & using your brains once & a while before you open your mouths.

p.s.- The only way that I would be breaking any legal terms of service with TLN would be if I recorded anything but gameplay from them. Then this would apply.

Also if TLN was to actually ban me then they themselves would breach their own TOS which would go against their own rules that they have set & just overall make them look bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w64fbqYQY

[Teamwe]

He plays COD all day...

[ThisGuyPwnage]

thats amazing how you found this lol.. instead of making it on youtube they should make a dvd box set and give it to select members and the alias of the month lol

[Small]

Not only is Boss Nasti a professional gamer, coach, tennis player, cook, chess player, gymnast, and everything else under the sun that you can imagine....he is also a lawyer. He speaks nothing but the truth and should be treated respectfully....

yeah for sure...

[Small]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4707/bossnasti.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/bossnasti.jpg/)

Your ideas are working, keep up the good work.

You just gave me the best laugh I have had all week. Much love



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKu0QU4s51Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKu0QU4s51Y
^^ This sums up Boss Nasti ^^

[ITCHY]

^^ This sums up Boss Nasti ^^

The reply video to the reply video of THIS video is FAR better. I hate to add any unproductive comments to a thread that has already made its point, but this guy has to be the worlds best Troll. It bothers me that I can't tell if he is the most sarcastic person in existence or simply delusional.

Boss Nasti, your defense is weak because ultimately you took a paid "Premium" access only service and posted it for free in a public form. How is this NOT a viable excuse to BAN you from this site? If TLN as a site allowed any premium member to capture and post their premium content for free elsewhere it potentially deters other users from paying for access to this content. JoeFries youtube link sums up your wall of text perfectly.

[itwuzmagik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKu0QU4s51Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKu0QU4s51Y
^^ This sums up Boss Nasti ^^
Ha great post small.


Before any of you start thinking that your in the right, I'll start off by saying that there is nothing that TLN can do because they themselves have manipulated the gameplay itself by adding content to the gameplay screen itself. You all should Watch This Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7h0Cq2iWOM) which explains that Game Publishers own all the rights to any games that are streamed or publicly used anywhere besides being played on the game itself in a closed environment. So technically TLN has actually breached legal terms with Bungie as everyone has who uploads Halo Gameplay to Youtube or anywhere else.

This is why a Company like Machinima has to pay Activision a Copyright Fee to upload Call of Duty gameplay because they make so much money off of it. TLN doesn't even have the right to come after me because it's not their copyright for the gameplay, it's Activisions. Also since I'm not going around saying that I'm apart of TLN or anything of that sort or trying to pass it off as my own then there is no legal action that they could take either.

Even MLG has to pay Bungie to stream & for other things just to use Reach on the circuit. There's a whole legal world that the majority of you know nothing about, so you shouldn't form an opinion based off something you have an insufficient amount of knowledge in.

On top of all this is anything I'm just promoting for them. So why would they even thing of doing anything to me, they would just be losing a source of Advertisement for them. Some of you should honestly try thinking & using your brains once & a while before you open your mouths.

p.s.- The only way that I would be breaking any legal terms of service with TLN would be if I recorded anything but gameplay from them. Then this would apply.

Also if TLN was to actually ban me then they themselves would breach their own TOS which would go against their own rules that they have set & just overall make them look bad.

are you by chance related to killboy?

[forefront]

BOSS NASTi is banned until further review.

[RagingChickens]

Okay so do I get an award for getting him banned? Lol

[DROpher]

Before any of you start thinking that your in the right, I'll start off by saying that there is nothing that TLN can do because they themselves have manipulated the gameplay itself by adding content to the gameplay screen itself. You all should Watch This Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7h0Cq2iWOM) which explains that Game Publishers own all the rights to any games that are streamed or publicly used anywhere besides being played on the game itself in a closed environment. So technically TLN has actually breached legal terms with Bungie as everyone has who uploads Halo Gameplay to Youtube or anywhere else.

This is why a Company like Machinima has to pay Activision a Copyright Fee to upload Call of Duty gameplay because they make so much money off of it. TLN doesn't even have the right to come after me because it's not their copyright for the gameplay, it's Activisions. Also since I'm not going around saying that I'm apart of TLN or anything of that sort or trying to pass it off as my own then there is no legal action that they could take either.

Even MLG has to pay Bungie to stream & for other things just to use Reach on the circuit. There's a whole legal world that the majority of you know nothing about, so you shouldn't form an opinion based off something you have an insufficient amount of knowledge in.

On top of all this is anything I'm just promoting for them. So why would they even thing of doing anything to me, they would just be losing a source of Advertisement for them. Some of you should honestly try thinking & using your brains once & a while before you open your mouths.

p.s.- The only way that I would be breaking any legal terms of service with TLN would be if I recorded anything but gameplay from them. Then this would apply.

Also if TLN was to actually ban me then they themselves would breach their own TOS which would go against their own rules that they have set & just overall make them look bad.

You are the most "retardedest" person ever. Period.

[ThisGuyPwnage]

this guy BOSS NASTi is a local of mine, he is a total wannabe and thinks he has what it takes to make gaming a career.he has been banned my MLGPRO.com and they banned his IP Address.we need him off this site ASAP!

damn howd you find all of this out andizzle??... is he the one that taught you how to shoot? cause you get outDMRed all day lol
(its okay hes my doubles partner lol jk)

and yeah i was watching some other videos of his and he was all negative and claiming that he had proven facts and ladeeda for like 5 minutes haha it was pretty sad

[Inexist]

Ha great post small are you by chance related to killboy?

Haha Magik,

But seriously Boss Nasti. Did you really think you could come in here all guns blazing saying Cool Storys ? I don't think so just leave us in peace man, even though I do find you hilarious .

[SmartzOvahShotz]

I love how his sig said "be APART of my movement."

Let me tell you, I do want to be "apart" from him. lol

[Justin21]

Because halo reach was made by activision lol this guy is retarded

[GrayBlue]

Because halo reach was made by activision lol this guy is retarded

No one said reach was made by activision, fail. Although a Bungie/Activision link isn't too far off seeing as Activision will be publishing Bungie's future games. =)

BOSSNASTi does bring up some good points, he is able to use game play footage as outlined in Microsoft's Game Content Usage Rules, and therefore is not infringing on TLN's copyrights unless TLN has it's own license with Microsoft that defines copyright ownership of videos/streams they have recorded (doubt that)...which begs the question, does TLN have a license agreement with Microsoft that allows them to sell a subscription for game play footage of Reach? If not, and seeing that it's specifically prohibited by Microsoft's Game Content Usage Rules, TLN could be heading towards some copyright lawsuits of their own.

What it boils down to is that BOSSNASTi is providing free TLN advertisement to his 2k+ subscribers. Does Mr. P really want to lose that kind of exposure? Is the competitive gaming community (here specifically) really immature and naive enough to hate on/silence/bully BOSSNASTi just because they don't like the style in which he presents himself?

I often wonder why competitive gaming hasn't gone mainstream, and am often reminded when I come across threads like this. Until the gaming community matures and quits living behind the anonymity of a computer screen, competitive gaming will continue to be a joke and not taken seriously by potential investors.

[n3w_NuMb3rZ]

No one said reach was made by activision, fail. Although a Bungie/Activision link isn't too far off seeing as Activision will be publishing Bungie's future games. =)

BOSSNASTi does bring up some good points, he is able to use game play footage as outlined in Microsoft's Game Content Usage Rules, and therefore is not infringing on TLN's copyrights unless TLN has it's own license with Microsoft that defines copyright ownership of videos/streams they have recorded (doubt that)...which begs the question, does TLN have a license agreement with Microsoft that allows them to sell a subscription for game play footage of Reach? If not, and seeing that it's specifically prohibited by Microsoft's Game Content Usage Rules, TLN could be heading towards some copyright lawsuits of their own.

What it boils down to is that BOSSNASTi is providing free TLN advertisement to his 2k+ subscribers. Does Mr. P really want to lose that kind of exposure? Is the competitive gaming community (here specifically) really immature and naive enough to hate on/silence/bully BOSSNASTi just because they don't like the style in which he presents himself?

I often wonder why competitive gaming hasn't gone mainstream, and am often reminded when I come across threads like this. Until the gaming community matures and quits living behind the anonymity of a computer screen, competitive gaming will continue to be a joke and not taken seriously by potential investors.

is this a new account?
i have NEVER EVER heard ANYONE defend Boss Nasti's idiocy and seeing as this guy has only 1 post and recently made the account......i wonder

lol @ free advertisement btw
i dont think TLN needs free advertisement from Boss Nasti
that would actually push ppl away lol

[GrayBlue]

is this a new account?
i have NEVER EVER heard ANYONE defend Boss Nasti's idiocy and seeing as this guy has only 1 post and recently made the account......i wonder


Yes this is a new account. And to reply to your next assumption, no I am not BOSSNASTi, he asked me to check out this thread so I did and felt like it needed a rational and mature response.



lol @ free advertisement btw
i dont think TLN needs free advertisement from Boss Nasti
that would actually push ppl away lol

I highly doubt that is a true statement, exposure is exposure. I had never even heard of TLN before now.

[Imp3nded]

competitive gaming will continue to be a joke and not taken seriously by potential investors.

Tell that to all of MLG's sponsors... Dr. Pepper, Hot Pockets, Stride, Matador, Old Spice, Doritos, Astros, Gunnars, etc etc.

Oh yea, and how about you read articles like these (http://www.pehub.com/91158/major-league-gaming-inks-initial-close-on-10m-round/) before you vocalize your ignorance.

[Joe Fries]

Yes this is a new account. And to reply to your next assumption, no I am not BOSSNASTi, he asked me to check out this thread so I did and felt like it needed a rational and mature response.

I highly doubt that is a true statement, exposure is exposure. I had never even heard of TLN before now.

You know I can see IP addresses, right?

Check yourself, boss.