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Gearijigu
02-21-2011, 05:00 PM
now I know that scrafing and Ghandi hopping were a big part of halo 3 but have you guys managed to pull of any amazing strafes in Halo Reach? I find that 95% of the time people just run up beatdown and spam without learning how to strafe at all. personally I use a version of SK's H3 strafe left thumbstick back and forth with small movements and don't touch the edges. I have been quoted as have a "down syndrome" strafe by some of my friends

any thoughts?

MichaelMongrel
02-21-2011, 05:03 PM
You can do that? For me moving the thumbstick left and right without touching the edges barely moves me at all.

chris_cr33p
02-21-2011, 05:07 PM
yeah i mean i hae had some nasty strafes done to me :(

Imp3nded
02-21-2011, 05:08 PM
You must be playing a lot of non-MLG gametypes if you're having problems with people running up and beating you down repeatedly, or you're playing against very bad people. Beating down is rather useless in this game thus strafing is even more important than it was in Halo 3. And since you no longer ice-skate and the movement is quicker and more responsive, strafing is even better. I just mix it up while I strafe. Long motion left, studder-step right, short motion left, long motion right, etc etc. However, I'm a big ghandi hopper. Especially since we have a single-shot gun now.

SL0WandP41NFUL
02-21-2011, 05:11 PM
Strafing does nothing in this game. Strafing was only important against a burst weapon to try and make as many bullets from the burst miss as possible. If you time your shots, you don't have to worry about strafes.

Imp3nded
02-21-2011, 05:13 PM
Strafing does nothing in this game. Strafing was only important against a burst weapon to try and make as many bullets from the burst miss as possible. If you time your shots, you don't have to worry about strafes.

Strafing throws off their aim. That is what a good strafe is supposed to do. With a single-shot gun, there is an EVEN BETTER chance of them missing shots when they try to shoot a strafing opponent...

MichaelMongrel
02-21-2011, 05:17 PM
Strafing throws off their aim. That is what a good strafe is supposed to do. With a single-shot gun, there is an EVEN BETTER chance of them missing shots when they try to shoot a strafing opponent...

I agree. It even happens to pros against other pros.

Brwn
02-21-2011, 05:19 PM
Strafing throws off their aim. That is what a good strafe is supposed to do. With a single-shot gun, there is an EVEN BETTER chance of them missing shots when they try to shoot a strafing opponent...
^sums it up. The whole point of a strafe is to throw off the opponents' aim- in shooting games strafing will always be useful.

To get back to the original question- don't just always do the same thing i.e. left-right-left. Just be Unpredictible! developing the perfect strafe for yourself comes with time and figuring out what works best with you. My advice: short range use a short strafe/ long range use a longer strafe. Hope this helps.

Eclipse
02-21-2011, 05:45 PM
I agree with everyone here, make your strafe unpredictable. And throwing in well time crouches can also allow you to move as fast as you were standing, but shoot a few shoots faster, allowing for the great out BR(ya i know its a DMR, but it will always be called getting out BR'd to me)

KRILLIN
02-21-2011, 05:49 PM
I try and mix it up with some forward and backward, side to side, jumping every now and then lol. Not sure if any of it works but I TRY!

Vivacity
02-21-2011, 06:22 PM
I still do the Bonfire "arc" motion from H2. It's always worked out pretty well for me.

Chilley
02-21-2011, 06:31 PM
Why use strafe when you can just evade?

Jewjitsu
02-21-2011, 06:52 PM
it's good to make it as random as possible, and if u can find stuff to jump on while shooting at the guy, it'll make it harder for him to follow u, especially if he's slow turning. sometimes standing still for a second can throw off the opponent's aim because they're used to shooting a guy who's strafing. lol

Nick_o_laz
02-21-2011, 07:14 PM
Why use strafe when you can just evade?

I laughed pretty hard at this haha. But yeah, just by mixing it up with a jump here and there is what gets me through most of my 1v1s.

Antidote
02-21-2011, 08:49 PM
I laughed pretty hard at this haha. But yeah, just by mixing it up with a jump here and there is what gets me through most of my 1v1s.

Who are you having a 1v1 against that you're able to jump more then once before someone is dead?

System
02-21-2011, 09:22 PM
Strafe is extremely important, but having a teammate with you so you don't have to worry about strafe is what this game is about.

RagingChickens
02-21-2011, 09:50 PM
Who are you having a 1v1 against that you're able to jump more then once before someone is dead?

Good question. lol

Nobody has addressed this yet, but Gandhi hopping is crucial in this game. It makes that last shot extremely hard to make, so be sure to do this in as many of your DMR battles as you can.

iLLiCiT
02-21-2011, 10:39 PM
Strafing in this game is pointless because of the inconsistency with bloom and the dmr.

You can out strafe the shit of your opponent and still lose the battle cause your shots aren't registering.

It seems like the idea of strafing in Reach is to move in a position where your shots are likely to count and hit the enemy more so than trying to make them miss their shots on you

Makin
02-22-2011, 12:12 AM
I find that strafing loose works better than a tight small strafe......just my opinion

Imp3nded
02-22-2011, 12:25 AM
You can out strafe the shit of your opponent and still lose the battle cause your shots aren't registering.

It's not your shots not registering... it's your bloom working the way it's supposed to. You sound like FiS at the beginning of the LAN.

Gearijigu
02-22-2011, 12:39 AM
interesting points... someone mentioned that I must not play much MLG because people dont just come up and beatdown thats just simply not true so many people would just rather run up and beat down. But for sure there is nothing that I enjoy more than outstrafing someone and then embarrassing them

iLLiCiT
02-22-2011, 12:52 AM
It's not your shots not registering... it's your bloom working the way it's supposed to. You sound like FiS at the beginning of the LAN.

I dont spam dawg..

I get spammed ON!

Aka the dmr sucks dick and is random and inconsistent

Moral of the story being, me pacing my shots and them still not connecting lets the other player, who's getting out strafed, just continue to let off on his right trigger like there's no tomorrow and get the kill on me because I failed to do the same

Imp3nded
02-22-2011, 01:13 AM
I dont spam dawg..

I get spammed ON!

Aka the dmr sucks dick and is random and inconsistent

Moral of the story being, me pacing my shots and them still not connecting lets the other player, who's getting out strafed, just continue to let off on his right trigger like there's no tomorrow and get the kill on me because I failed to do the same

Don't pace your shots when you should be shooting faster? It's not the game's fault if your constantly getting beat in DMR 1v1s due to a spammer. I win battles I should win, and the same goes for all of the good players. Pros won the battles they were supposed to win this weekend most of the time. If they didn't, it was usually their own fault. Ogre 2 even said it, bloom adds an extra element to the game. You won't get BS'd by spam if you know what you're doing.

And the bloom has nothing to do with strafing. The point is that the gun is a single-shot weapon, thus making it harder to hit a strafing opponent.

Imp3nded
02-22-2011, 01:53 AM
No thanks, but a nice cup of ban will do perfectly.

Anyways, back on topic. The point is that strafing is of course going to be more important in a game where there's a single-shot gun that takes 5 shots to kill. This means there is no spray of bullets that can hit the strafing opponent even if you miss, and it also means you have to put in more shots to kill the person, which means more shots you have a chance of missing. Then add that with the fact that movement is more agile in this game, so you can strafe quicker, and then strafing becomes vital.

MidKnight
02-22-2011, 04:08 AM
i miss my halo 3 strafe, i was getting good at it before halo reach came out

RagingChickens
02-22-2011, 09:09 AM
Impended droppin the BANHAMMMMMMMER!!

I agree with what you were saying Impended. I'm not sure if anyone mentioned the difference between shot registration on LAN compared to Xbox live but that certainly is an element to look out for. I was just too lazy to read to see if anyone mentioned it.

Impended is speaking the truth in the above post.

Nobody did mention it. But it definitely is a major difference. After watching the LAN 24/7 all weekend, I went into MM and was like, wtf is this why aren't my shots hitting?! All this talk about the bloom being inconsistent and the DMR sucking is probably due to a few games with bad connection.

TLN Darkside
02-22-2011, 10:11 AM
Good to see Imp3nded summing it up nicely and dropping the hammer in the process lol. Strafing is probably my weakest point right now, but when I remember to try and get a good strafe in there, it helps out a lot. Just keep it mixed up so your movement is harder to anticipate.

ZeroCool
02-22-2011, 10:13 AM
Its pretty obvious that strafing is very important, whenever i try to strafe i never quite feel like i'm doing anything but I have seen some pretty nasty strafes from ppl online. Also crouching seems to play a much bigger role in Reach than H3.

MLGAlbatross
02-22-2011, 11:41 AM
My favorite thing to do is: Long left, stutter right, chuch and walk left for two shot, then ghandi right like a mothaf*****. If the battle isnt over by that point, i stutter left, right, left :)

I feel like crouching for about 2-3 shots really throws off they're height perception then the ghandi right after makes the headshot near-impossible to hit.

If you meet me in MM, please forget you read this :)

SL0WandP41NFUL
02-23-2011, 02:54 PM
You're not comprehending the point of a strafe. The reason strafing was so important in H3/H2 was because with the burst weapons, if you could strafe out of 2 bullets, they have to fire a whole other burst to kill you, when you can still 4 them if you're aim is on. Single shots means missing is quite hard.

Imp3nded
02-23-2011, 04:38 PM
You're not comprehending the point of a strafe. The reason strafing was so important in H3/H2 was because with the burst weapons, if you could strafe out of 2 bullets, they have to fire a whole other burst to kill you, when you can still 4 them if you're aim is on. Single shots means missing is quite hard.

... I don't even know what to say.

SL0WandP41NFUL
02-23-2011, 05:45 PM
... I don't even know what to say.

Speechless at how much sense I'm making? Yeah, I would be too. Honestly, I bet towards the end of Reach, the top players will not miss a DMR shot because they'll let the bloom reset so much. It will nearly nullify strafing.

Gearijigu
02-24-2011, 12:38 AM
Speechless at how much sense I'm making? Yeah, I would be too. Honestly, I bet towards the end of Reach, the top players will not miss a DMR shot because they'll let the bloom reset so much. It will nearly nullify strafing.

^^ that sounds boring as hell just slow down your DMR shots a little. I think that strafing will be a big part of reach because strafing has played a big role in the past halos

PK Toolboxxx
02-24-2011, 03:34 AM
so is it easier to strafe 1 bullet or 3 cause by your logic it is harder to miss 1......and i can tell u it is much easier to miss 1......

Gearijigu
02-24-2011, 10:06 PM
Strafe:

1.) Acquire host
2.) Spam DMR
3.) Strafe doesn't matter at this point.

sad but true pulling host has always allowed for unfair shot registry and such

Highjinx
02-25-2011, 10:25 AM
sad but true pulling host has always allowed for unfair shot registry and such

Something that has always occurred since halo 2 =p. I remember host would be able to shot across lockout (Snipe 3 to the back BR ramp) without having to lead shots but off host you had to lead a decent amount x.x.

Makin
02-25-2011, 12:25 PM
Strafe:

1.) Acquire host
2.) Spam DMR
3.) Strafe doesn't matter at this point.
I can't stop laughing.......prolly cause it's so true!

Asta
02-25-2011, 04:31 PM
I always start off my strafe with a few short side to sides to get them to react poorly and miss a few shots. Then I use whatever strafe helps my aim the most.