V4 Test Maps

[SaLoT]

Kc and Tak need people to download the V4 Test Maps and give feedback.


As was recently posted, here is a list of gametypes that are currently in testing(click them to go straight to download):

Cynosure (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492422&player=Killa%20KC): TS
Hexogen (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492432&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5
Onslaught (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492465&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb
Redemption (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492499&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF5 5
Reservoir (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492556&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb
Veridian (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492490&player=Killa%20KC): TS
Virtue (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492474&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb
*Note there was a typo when I copy paste the listed last night and the following gametypes did not show up*
Warlock (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492450&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb

NOTE: The NR Gametypes in KC's Fileshare are for testing purposes only and are not the actual v4 gametypes.

Retroactive and Android since already being in the playlist and having received extensive testing are being dealt with on their own, independently of these maps, their future as circuit maps is still unknown.

List of changes on maps that have been submitted:

Cynosure: Purple room changed to gold room
Hexogen: Purple Bridge changed to green bridge
Onslaught: Gap between bottom of towers and roof of tunnels filled in, colours changed, healthpacks moved, grenade launcher and evade swapped positions.
Redemption: Rockets/Sniper added, Evade moved, Health packs moved, Camo removed for CTF
Reservoir: Top list rooms changed to prevent hitting your head and more colour added and changed around, Evades removed, camo added bottom mid for TS and Flag, Rockets moved top mid for all gametypes. Colour added to front bases.
Virtue: Grenade Launcher replaced FR in TS/CTF

This thread is for discussing any questions, comments or concerns you guys have about the maps in in v4 testing. Note that only Cynosure and Onslaught(maybe Redemption I don't remember have to check with KC) can be played split screen.

I will be posting some long posts in people's respective threads that did not make v4 testing to try and give some feedback and insight into why they were removed from testing.




So head over to MLG and download the V4 Test maps and speak up lets get some more maps into MLG!!!

[Cantro]

onslaught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xxlilxdragonxx]

woot onslaught <3

[PK Toolboxxx]

warlock was also on killa kc's file share as v4. any one know anything about this?

[MichaelMongrel]

Please please PLEASE keep the NEW maps coming.

[yEsrr]

redemption looks sick

[TechSlayer]

warlock was also on killa kc's file share as v4. any one know anything about this?

I hope it is because I took a look at it and it's freakin sick. :P

I want to try out reservoir because it's a pretty tight design for a map. Salot's new onslaught is awesome. It actually plays well on reach. I've played on hexogen before but it was not team oriented and we were messing around, so I would really like to give it a try. I still wanna see a good KoTH map for reach though...

[Jewjitsu]

is KC seriously doing NRs on 110 damage? no one wants to deal with even more overpowered nades and rockets, and annoying needle rifles.

[Morgan]

Veridian... finally :D

[HEA7]

if needle rifles are used, he better make it one grenade

[PK Toolboxxx]

sigh no to the needles.

[Brixxx]

NR starts really ? :(

[MichaelMongrel]

Guys, c'mon. It's just a TEST gametype list. Nothing is confirmed for v4.

[Imp3nded]

The Needle Rifle gametypes are only being tested.

I hope Onslaught is never brought back. I won't go into the reasons why because I have stated many times why that map isn't good. And no, that is not a shot at Salot, because I find his other more recent maps much better, and I like Redemption.

[mrkillboy]

Dear Infant Baby Jesus, please let Onslaught not make it. Amen.

[Morgacht]

Ohhhh man, please let MLG Warlock happen. Please Please Please. That map is epic.

[Nimbus]

sigh no to the needles.

What does this even mean?

[mrkillboy]

What does this even mean?


He meant sign.

[Harsh]

If anyone wants to run customs on these maps, add me. GT: harsh uhh

I haven't been on in like a week but i plan on running v4 customs all weekend so hit me up.

[Bleuprint]

I don't even like jelly.

[SecretSchnitzel]

What does this even mean?

Double needles, what does it mean!?

I can see Ons making it... If KC gets over his bias against SaLoT. A part of me is worried that this is simply a gesture to appease SaLoT. :/

Most likely, out of the 4-base designs up, Warlock will be the map of choice due to familiarity and pro backing. This of course will hedge out Redmption and Virtue.

And what the hell is Cynosure, Hexogen and Reservoir doing in there!? Cynosure is miscalled and plays pretty poorly. Can't cross the map without getting shot the hell up. Hexogen is a lag fest and a half, has two viable routes across the map and two alternatives that are dead open... Also plays extremely poorly. And Reservoir is a blatant rip off of Embassy, and a bad one at that.

TaK needs the boot ASAP.

[Imp3nded]

I feel as if Reservoir is far superior to the other maps in this trial. I really like it.

[SecretSchnitzel]

I feel as if Reservoir is far superior to the other maps in this trial. I really like it.

What drugs are you taking? Or is this a joke?

[Imp3nded]

What drugs are you taking? Or is this a joke?

No, it is just simply the most enjoyable map to play on for me. And it's very clean looking. I'm off to bed though. Good night.

[Nimbus]

No, it is just simply the most enjoyable map to play on for me. And it's very clean looking. I'm off to bed though. Good night.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ELFl2_1q7DI/TObn1HnV2fI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/5JkvAtpbv7k/s1600/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg

[SecretSchnitzel]

The map is a blatant rip off of Embassy. The bases are virtually the same design. And the streets/halls are a combination of the original long hall from Embassy with its lift room. Furthermore, these halls are are straight shots.
The map is excessively linear, lacks adequate variation in elevation, and the is completely dead.
I could go on and on, but the jist is, map sucks.

[Araneatrox]

Nimbus, i can confirm that Impended was Serious. He did goto bed.

In an attempt to be on Topic, YES ONSLAUGHT!

[N!TRO]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ELFl2_1q7DI/TObn1HnV2fI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/5JkvAtpbv7k/s1600/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg

LOL


if needle rifles are used, he better make it one grenade

I agree, I can't stand the sound of NR

[SaLoT]

@Imp: Onslaught plays very well, have you even tried this version? If no try it before you bash it.

@killboy: you should never pray to Jesus for no Onslaught, when in fact God himself made it.

@Secret: Lets keep the bashing of any of these maps down. We need more maps in MLG and these forgers work hard on these maps. Even if the maps are in there just to calm the waters for now at least they are looking at them and that is all that matters.

[TLN Frost]

Sign me up =)

OMFG WLOCK

FTW

[PK Toolboxxx]

What does this even mean?

im saying lets not have an only nr start.

[Smallz08]

I like most of the maps but I am going to have to agree with everyone that they should keep the DMR instead of the NR. Thats just my prefrence but if MLG thinks its better I guess I will just adapt and not complain.

[TechSlayer]

What drugs are you taking? Or is this a joke?

What's wrong with it?

[Jewjitsu]

my favorites out of the bunch are onslaught and warlock. the others didn't look like they'd be fun to play on. no offense to the forger but the one with the lake in the middle, can't remember which one it is, is absolutely horrible.

[SaLoT]

OT: Main page has been updated.


As was recently posted, here is a list of gametypes that are currently in testing(click them to go straight to download):

Cynosure (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492422&player=Killa%20KC): TS
Hexogen (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492432&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5
Onslaught (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492465&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb
Redemption (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492499&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF5 5
Reservoir (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492556&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb
Veridian (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492490&player=Killa%20KC): TS
Virtue (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492474&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb
*Note there was a typo when I copy paste the listed last night and the following gametypes did not show up*
Warlock (http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=16492450&player=Killa%20KC): TS/CTF 5/Bomb

NOTE: The NR Gametypes in KC's Fileshare are for testing purposes only and are not the actual v4 gametypes.

Retroactive and Android since already being in the playlist and having received extensive testing are being dealt with on their own, independently of these maps, their future as circuit maps is still unknown.

List of changes on maps that have been submitted:

Cynosure: Purple room changed to gold room
Hexogen: Purple Bridge changed to green bridge
Onslaught: Gap between bottom of towers and roof of tunnels filled in, colours changed, healthpacks moved, grenade launcher and evade swapped positions.
Redemption: Rockets/Sniper added, Evade moved, Health packs moved, Camo removed for CTF
Reservoir: Top list rooms changed to prevent hitting your head and more colour added and changed around, Evades removed, camo added bottom mid for TS and Flag, Rockets moved top mid for all gametypes. Colour added to front bases.
Virtue: Grenade Launcher replaced FR in TS/CTF

This thread is for discussing any questions, comments or concerns you guys have about the maps in in v4 testing. Note that only Cynosure and Onslaught(maybe Redemption I don't remember have to check with KC) can be played split screen.

I will be posting some long posts in people's respective threads that did not make v4 testing to try and give some feedback and insight into why they were removed from testing.





im saying lets not have an only nr start.


Toolboxx, there just testing it and see what people feel about it, play a few games with NR and then DMR and see how you feel after playing at least three NR games in a row then 3 DmR games in a row.

[ReFlex]

so on viridian the camo is spawning every 30 seconds is that suppose to happen?:/

[The R3medy]

Please no NR on 110

[TsuIVami]

I'm glad they are testing a variety of new maps. We need new variety, and for Nexus slayer to be removed...

[SecretSchnitzel]

Mistake.

[Imp3nded]

The map is a blatant rip off of Embassy. The bases are virtually the same design. And the streets/halls are a combination of the original long hall from Embassy with its lift room. Furthermore, these halls are are straight shots.
The map is excessively linear, lacks adequate variation in elevation, and the is completely dead.
I could go on and on, but the jist is, map sucks.

Well you're talking to someone whose favorite map through all four Halos is Narrows, so it'd actually make sense that I enjoy a map like this. Personally, I don't care if it's a rip off. The point is, I enjoy the map. I'm aware forgers have their own unique opinion on maps, and that's fine.

Reservoir for v4. Nexus out. I would love to see Hexogen in v4, but the screen lag kills it for me.

@Salot: I've played Onslaught in Reach. I still feel the same way as I did during Halo 3.

[Jewjitsu]

I dont even see the point of testing the NR. Pros already decided they prefer the dmr, plus the 110 damage is really annoying. Idk what killa kc is thinking these days... he'd better do something right and use warlock and onslaught in v4.

[Big_E33]

is KC seriously doing NRs on 110 damage? no one wants to deal with even more overpowered nades and rockets, and annoying needle rifles.

this is about a better starting weapon

also cynosure is the shit, and redemption 5 flag will be sick


I dont even see the point of testing the NR. Pros already decided they prefer the dmr, plus the 110 damage is really annoying. Idk what killa kc is thinking these days... he'd better do something right and use warlock and onslaught in v4.

i would love to hear your explanation about why the NR doesnt need tested

[BluePriiint]

i like redemption and hexogen

[PK Toolboxxx]

Toolboxx, there just testing it and see what people feel about it, play a few games with NR and then DMR and see how you feel after playing at least three NR games in a row then 3 DmR games in a row.

ah i see. i guess its w/e mlg says. good work on redemption. the only new map that i think would be enjoyable.

[MichaelMongrel]

Just bring in something new.
It's become increasingly apparent that KC and crew have differing opinions than the forging community.
What the forging community thinks is bad may not be what the rest thinks is bad.

I also have a feeling that hate towards some of these new maps stems from simply bad experiences on the first or second personal go-through.

[Moyizzo]

Yeah, that would be great...just make everyone who's been using DMR since release learn a new gun... =/ I reaaallllyyy like the warlock remake, it's great. I really hope this NR talk is just rumor because I would hate to see the DMR go. It really is the better of the 2 in my opinion. I'll get back when I've run some customs on them all. They are all pretty good looking maps.

[Annexin]

Really hope they don't use needle rifle, couldn't imagine how that would be.

[Cantro]

NR online is a better weapon but on LAN DMR all the way

[zig8]

if they go with NR i'm just going to stop playing that shit is stupid

[SaLoT]

Well you're talking to someone whose favorite map through all four Halos is Narrows, so it'd actually make sense that I enjoy a map like this. Personally, I don't care if it's a rip off. The point is, I enjoy the map. I'm aware forgers have their own unique opinion on maps, and that's fine.

Reservoir for v4. Nexus out. I would love to see Hexogen in v4, but the screen lag kills it for me.

@Salot: I've played Onslaught in Reach. I still feel the same way as I did during Halo 3.

Game link?

[Imp3nded]

Game link?

If you want to go searching a month back when you first released it, be my guest.

[Moyizzo]

I can't see Nexus being taken out. It really is a great map that runs flag very well. I personally think the worst map on the cirucuit right now is Countdown. Just my personal opinion, I'm sure some agree and some disagree.

Why does the NR not need to be tested? If pros have already said they like the DMR better, which I agree, I don't think it should be an option. It's like telling a basketball player that they're going to use a different type of ball so get used to it. No. It just doesn't work that way.

[SaLoT]

If you want to go searching a month back when you first released it, be my guest.

Sorry no i don't, but can u tell me how many games you played on it?

[Imp3nded]

Sorry no i don't, but can u tell me how many games you played on it?

Four. Does it matter?

Maps that are good, I notice are good by four games of playing on them. And of course keep in mind that when I say good, I mean my opinion. Nexus I realized I hated it within the first 2 games, and honestly I haven't grown to like it over the countless number of games on it. Element I loved after the first game. Veridian I loved after the first game. I've played one game on Reservoir, yet I think it's my favorite map in this testing cycle. Cynosure and Hexogen I played both in Halo 3. I played on Hexogen in Reach, the screen lag kind of killed it for me. Cynosure I haven't had the chance to play on in Reach yet.

The point is, I don't like Onslaught, and nothing anyone says to me in an attempt to make my opinion invalid is going to change my mindset.

[mrkillboy]

Four. Does it matter?

Maps that are good, I notice are good by four games of playing on them. And of course keep in mind that when I say good, I mean my opinion. Nexus I realized I hated it within the first 2 games, and honestly I haven't grown to like it over the countless number of games on it. Element I loved after the first game. Veridian I loved after the first game. I've played one game on Reservoir, yet I think it's my favorite map in this testing cycle. Cynosure and Hexogen I played both in Halo 3. I played on Hexogen in Reach, the screen lag kind of killed it for me. Cynosure I haven't had the chance to play on in Reach yet.

The point is, I don't like Onslaught, and nothing anyone says to me in an attempt to make my opinion invalid is going to change my mindset.

You and me, doing it. Right meow.

[SaLoT]

Four. Does it matter?

Maps that are good, I notice are good by four games of playing on them. And of course keep in mind that when I say good, I mean my opinion. Nexus I realized I hated it within the first 2 games, and honestly I haven't grown to like it over the countless number of games on it. Element I loved after the first game. Veridian I loved after the first game. I've played one game on Reservoir, yet I think it's my favorite map in this testing cycle. Cynosure and Hexogen I played both in Halo 3. I played on Hexogen in Reach, the screen lag kind of killed it for me. Cynosure I haven't had the chance to play on in Reach yet.

The point is, I don't like Onslaught, and nothing anyone says to me in an attempt to make my opinion invalid is going to change my mindset.
Not trying to change your mindset... So chill.....

[zig8]

Warlock > Element
Get rid of Nexus
Onslaught - ABSOLUTELY
Cynosure - NO
Hexogen - NO
Redemption - NO
Reservoir - NO
Veridian - NO
Virtue - YES

Warlock should replace Element
but then you have Redemption, Hexogen and Virtue that are all similar maps, and similar to Element and Warlock as well. All of these maps basically have the same concept, except Hexogen is slightly different with the big pool of water in the middle. I say just use the original concept, which is Warlock, and maybe use Virtue because in my opinion it's the best out of the others. No offense to anyone who created the other maps.

Onslaught should definitely be used, but i'm worried about sprint on this map.
Nexus needs to go in my opinion.

I personally want to see more remakes on the rotation. I'd like to see lockout and midship return, i don't know why they aren't using prophet. I'd also like to see the gravity settings being altered to fit the classic playlist style... would be nice but i doubt it.

[TLN Frost]

Can we get a Pit remake, give me a hellz yeah! I love, love, love, absolutely love Warlock...I don't know about the others the exception being Onslaught, they're very small, tight maps...

[Duke]

I love Redemption, Warlock, and Reservoir. I can see Redemption being good for all gametypes. Reservoir seems more slayer, but CTF might be interesting.

I want to see Warlock ball on the circuit!! Anyone??



I honestly don't understand why everyone hates Nexus. It's one of my favorite maps. I prefer it to Countdown any day. The spawns keep teams from setting up and sitting, so team work and positioning becomes more and more important. Nexus is a solid map.

[TLN Frost]

I'm always getting spawn trapped on Nexus...to4 in MLG ftl =/