My suggestions for Reach. Your thoughts?

[MS eMeRaLd]

I have a few problems all of which i shall tell you. It will be fairly long and i do apologise for this but reach just isn't fun for me any more.



First is the playlist, multi team is boring now. I am not saying remove 4 teams of 3, just bring back 6 teams of 2. It was hectic and that made it fun.
In Elite Slayer most of the time it turns into an Armour Lock stick fest, which is very frustrating. It needs removing.
Rocket race playlist, as it is voted for every other game, most people i speak to dont like and want it removed so i believe if there was, those that want to play it can do so.
In Team Objective, i dont think oddball on sword base is very fair as Red Team have easy access to power weapons and the ball. I think if you moved Blue team into shotgun room and removed shotgun it would help. Then put the grenade launcher where concussion rifle is, removing that completely. Put the ball bottom middle, its a fair race to the ball then.
In Rumble Pit, could you add more objective gametypes, i like slayer but every now and again an objective game would be nice.
Onto maps, Pinnacle is horrible. The arm on which green team spawn is far too long, it needs shortening. Green Team on multi team have no chance at start. Rockets in middle of dish would be better, Put Blue on small snipe, Orange under rock tunnel and Green on the shortened arm.
Countdown needs either the shotgun, sword or concussion rifle removing in favour of a sniper. Too many weapons of that sort promote camping and that isn't fun.
Zealot needs space blocking off in objective games, mainly oddball, if someone goes up there and nobody notices the game is over too fast.
I don't like the fact that on Asylum its a symmetrical map yet it is unsymmetrical. Walls need adding around the edge to stop people from Bottom Blue Carbine, shooting into Red Snipe. You cannot do that on the other side. The rocks need to be place identical on each side too.
Armour Lock should be removed, from all games but the main one is Elite Slayer.
Invisibility is cool on objective but on Slayer people just camp with shotgun or sword or sniper and it gets silly. I wouldn't use the Invis Armour Ability though, i'd use a powerup as in Halo3.
The cooldown on Capture the Flag, i do not understand why that is there to be perfectly honest. It means you can't run flags fast, and with the instant return, this is problematic.
Bro Slayer is quite daft as it's very easy to consistently spawn kill.
Oh and please, can we keep Hemorrhage as a Big Team Battle Map. 4v4 really does not work on it at all.

Thank You and Goodnight!

[HEA7]

Great list, I especially agree with the multi team parts..

but one more thing...
I would like to add that I dont know.... but BRING BACK THE OLD RANKING SYSTEM XD

[TLN_Ghosty]

I know what you mean, but I rarely ever play any of these playlists, and MLG is fine to me.

[MS eMeRaLd]

Oh hell yes, i totally forgot about that

[MS eMeRaLd]

Yeah, i know not everyone plays them but i do and its really quite flawed. I don't play MLG playlst cos i have no one to play it with. Plus i suck, major league.
Sorry for double post

[TLN_Ghosty]

Yeah, i know not everyone plays them but i do and its really quite flawed. I don't play MLG playlst cos i have no one to play it with. Plus i suck, major league.
Sorry for double post

Practice makes Perfect.

[MS eMeRaLd]

Agreed, but its no fun when your team starts losing and then quits. I'd probly be pretty good in MLG if it wasn't for that

[WiFFXI]

I agree with much of these. The Asylum one especially. One thing I figured while reading though, is the MLG doesn't have any of these problems! It seems like they are doing something right lol. As for not having people to play the MLG playlist with, I know there is a thread around here for that. I'm too lazy to get it though.

[Sinstar94]

I think they should add some sort of way to seach so that 4 random people don't get matched up against a full team.

[Jewjitsu]

Bungie's playlists are horrific. I cant stand playing them. MLG is by far the best, but they need to implement new gametypes faster and use the old matching system where parties of 4 only play against other parties of 4. And then take out bloom. Then reach would be perfect!
I dont really care about a ranking system because i play with/against pros so much more than in halo 3, in fact last night i partied up with elamite and played a few games with him, it was so awesome, elamite's the best!

[Toomuchmooin]

I agree with the asylum thing but instead of adding walls and everything, just replace it with sanctuary, in fact mlg maps are balanced and have better weapon placement in general, so take maybe 20 or 30 mlg or mlg-esque maps and distribute them to the playlists, the only good default maps in my mind that should stay are zealot, condemned, countdown, and maybe anchor 9

[BluePriiint]

Maybe take off the bloom or at least like make it a little smaller.. if make sense..

[steelcity007]

Agreed, but its no fun when your team starts losing and then quits. I'd probly be pretty good in MLG if it wasn't for that

This....I can't tell you how many times I join a game and within the first 15 seconds, a teammate quits because they lose a snipe battle. Honestly the community on there pisses me off to no end sometimes. That's why I should really start trying to play with a team of four lol.

[MS eMeRaLd]

i wouldnt know about condemned and anchor9. i have not DL'd the maps.
i used to play lots of games with TLN guys, heuer, magic, luke, impended and many more. this was in halo3. but i never play with them now, or tlk to them for that matter. i havent got 1 guy from TLN on my friends list anymore.

[phreekopath]

i wouldnt know about condemned and anchor9. i have not DL'd the maps.
i used to play lots of games with TLN guys, heuer, magic, luke, impended and many more. this was in halo3. but i never play with them now, or tlk to them for that matter. i havent got 1 guy from TLN on my friends list anymore.

Well, I didn't remove you, so hmmmmmmmmmm...

..also, the argument of making the bloom smaller and/or getting rid of it entirely is just ridiculous. Everyone has complained about how each incarnation of Halo has gotten easier and more "noob friendly", and yet the only thing that I hear aside from that is an idea to take out the one mechanic in the game that actually requires a decent skill and effort to get right. How can you argue on both sides of the fence on the same topic?

[MidKnight]

no more DMR. Just BR. Put back BXR. Put back double shot. Put back Quad Shot. Put in that sword lunge that Legit, Elamite, Walshy, Neighbor, ect always do and ughhh, forge making, put in an option to where you can change the color of stuff, would be awesome and ughhh, dont have low ranks match with high ranks, make matchmaking equal

[MS eMeRaLd]

no u didnt, sorry, i removed them all. personnal reasons. that in the end made no difference to the situation.
@MidKnight so halo 2 then?

[MrChaosTheory]

Honestly Reach has its merits, and if released separately to the Halo Series I think it would see a lot more success/praise.

However outside of aesthetics, if fails to show a resemblance of many previous Halo's. At its core is seems to no-longer be a Halo game I recognise.

There are many changes to the game that could make it better, but fundamentally there is one change that would turn it around:

Forget about continuity in the storyline, as much as people play Halo for its storyline. I think most of the population that have and are playing Halo, will tell you it's platform as a alternative competitive 4v4 FPS keep bringing them back for more.

"Halo Reach's graphics have pushed as far as the Xbox 360 can go":

Great but all the other crap that was introduced flawed the game:

We have ForgeWorld, an entire world dedicated to forging!

Great, but most maps made are useless, you have to load the entire ForgeWorld for a map that could 4x4 blocks, which leads to poor performance in graphic and the lack of split-screen support. As well a the excuse of a lack of bungie created maps because of it.

We have pushed the Reach to the pinacle of the Xbox 360's graphics performance!

Great but due to many new introductions and "Higher Graphics" we have lost multiplayer theater mode and DOF, as well as Bungie created maps.

All new bigger and better Firefight all on one disk!

Great, but isn't firefight a substitution for when you don't have a full party to play MM with, MM that now is sub-par because of the firefight? No more multiplayer theater mode because of disk usage and DOF. Lack of splitscreen on forged maps and lack of bungie created maps because of disk usage.

Experience a Spartans life on Reach, before Combat Evolved!

Great, story driven multi-player. No, no Halos popularity was formed on it being an alternate competitive 4v4 FPS. The DMR is great, see it has bloom, it was before Halo CE and had to be less advanced, but wait longer scope? Sure pick and choose the historical accuracies in a SCIENCE FICTION game.

All in all I judge Halo Reach as an ok maybe better than average game if, released aside from the Halo Franchise.

You've got to think that possibly:

Microsoft "You're contractually obliged to make another two Halo titles!"
Bungie "Sure we'll make two more!"

Had a part to play, especially since both have unarguably been the two worst title's to come out of Bungie studios. Have you read any of their weekly updates, the tone they present them in wouldn't surprise if there is an ounce of truth in what I have said.

I am not some "butthurt kid" who should "play another game" I continue to play, overall in context of the thread, the game could be a dam-sight better, only when judged against the fantastic previous Halo's.

However as much as we may like, it is unchangeable, so no matter how much we voice our opinions/moan, depending on how you look at it, it won't change because of it. So although my big wall of text may lead you to think I lay awake and night and cry about it, I don't because ultimately we are lucky to be playing a game at all.

[MS eMeRaLd]

thought id found some1 t cry about reach with :)
ah well i'll cry on my own

[MrChaosTheory]

thought id found some1 t cry about reach with :)
ah well i'll cry on my own

My Reach tear days are over. Looking forward to the next installments from 343 and Bungies new project. I just hope there continues to be FPS's like Halo, cut the generic CoD shooters, we have CoD for that.

[Eclipse]

My response to this is MLG? If you play, to play well(stats), then you can have a fun time, as long as you have decent teammates, or friends. Playing MLG with your friends will make you more likely to make a team and go to an event, and even possibly place, if your good enough.

[MS eMeRaLd]

as ive stated, cant play MLG with no 1 to play it with.