Sundance on OTL first report

[forefront]

I am currently watching Sundance on ESPN Outside the Lines, discussing KobeKs appearance in the COD: BO commercial.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgErMLYdN0M&hd=1

[Dust]

I went to the living room and luckily I have digital cable, and that my stepbrother is a sports fan, it was set to the exact channel ESPN. So I rewound? it and am about to watch.

haha so lucky


Edit: I could not stand the guy on the bottom left who was arguing with sundance.

[vontoxic]

I recorded the whole thing. I have 20 minutes of video. I thought it was going to be a short debate and I was going to throw it up on my youtube. Now I dont know if I should edit and compile just the sundance parts, it would just look super one sided.

[Luke]

I missed it, what was the arguement about?

[Active]

can someone upload it somewhere? my computer is my tv.

[Dust]

I recorded the whole thing. I have 20 minutes of video. I thought it was going to be a short debate and I was going to throw it up on my youtube. Now I dont know if I should edit and compile just the sundance parts, it would just look super one sided.

Just post the whole thing. Look at the guy in the bottom left whenever Sundance is Talking.

[vontoxic]

It was basically about Kobe Bryant appearing in this "controversial" Black Ops commercial holding an assault rifle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo


Just post the whole thing. Look at the guy in the bottom left whenever Sundance is Talking.

lol yeah I noticed that. Kind of bothered me for some reason.


can someone upload it somewhere? my computer is my tv.

I'll cut it into 2 parts 10 minutes each. It will be on my youtube soon.

[TACO]

somebody get a youtube video up!!

[heuer89]

Here is the portion Sundance took part in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgErMLYdN0M&hd=1

EDIT: I have updated forefront's post to include this video for others as well.

[Brixxx]

its a video game and a commercial, the media is seriously retarded

edit: anyone know bomani jones twitter ? id personally like to tell him to get the stick out of his ass its a video game not real life STFU

[HavkinKnight]

i think Sunny D did a great job but the fight was stupid the guy in the bottom left was just being stupid its an AD in my mind a great and effective ad.

[Dust]

i think Sunny D did a great job but the fight was stupid the guy in the bottom left was just being stupid its an AD in my mind a great and effective ad.

It is a great and effective ad. I don't understand how that guy can seriously think that like, I mean if he's against violence sure whatever, but for him to say that he's disgusted by the fact that we as a society think that type of "fantasy" is acceptable and desirable is flat out ridiculous. We are raised to be in love with heroes, and to strive to be a hero, or someone that people respect. So to play a game where the end goal is to save the world be the hero should be natural. On the multiplayer side of things, I have never thought to myself I love killing people I wish I could do it in real life, So that's why I play games where I can kill people. To think that other people's minds work like that is completely ridiculous. People like him were probably the ones saying that columbine happened because the two boys happened to play Doom and Counter-Strike.

Also I don't know why the coroner/mortician? was there, he really didn't talk about CoD or Kobe, he was pretty much selling himself. Gang violence was here way before Video Games, CoD didn't add to the number of people wanting to be a gang member, hell I'd step out on a limb and say 1000x as many people joined the army than joined a gang because of CoD. If he really thinks that people join a gang or pick up a gun just because they saw a CoD commercial then I have no common sense. They would just as easily see their favorite rapper or actor holding a gun and killing people, actually I think sundance brought that up, about every actor who played a bad guy would be in the same boat. He was there on a personal agenda.<period

[forefront]

Haha, thanks for the edit heuer. I was in an office waiting room, and made them turn it up. I posted from my blackberry.

Yeah, Sundance represented well though! MLG community, LFG!

[vontoxic]

I'm pretty freakin late. I know. But here is the whole 18 minute segment.

Part1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63RxgTfK6eg)
Part2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSC_gqjtz0M)

[Mr P]

Thanks for putting that up !!

[Sinstar94]

Sundance seemed to really have a good grasp on the "issue" and had easily the most intelligent arguments there. That one guy tried to twist Sundance's words but it just made him come off as less intelligent.

[Araneatrox]

Once again the gaming community is the bad guy... Violent and boarder pushing games have always existed. The ZX Spectum has violent games on it, Atari 2600 had sex games on it and the PC had a game where you play a member of the KKK that's sole purpose is killing black people.

Did these games get any attentions? Sure, a little bit, mainly because they were banned and people wanted to play them. But no where near as much as recent games. CoD & MoH have taken the brunt end of the stick recently because they are overwhelmingly popular and its a way for people like Jack Thompson to twist and mould people who don't know better to hate this new medium. Where ever you go your going to find people trying to get their point known by as many people as possible by latching onto something that is current and popular and bastardising it for their own needs and wants.

The exact same this happened in the 50's and 60's with TV. If enough people aren't convinced by charlatans like this it should get better when they find there new "Evil" Of choice.

I would have also liked that other guy who was supporting the Vidya industry to actually say something, he said 1 sentence and just seems to recede into the background for the rest of the interview letting Sundance fight his own corner against 3 other people. Not good

[Buckness]

i think its pretty dope that MLG is makin moves like that and congrats to sunny

[Smallz08]

This whole argument is basically meaningless in my opinion. I am actually kinda offended that Sundance had to be there for that particular reason instead of him being there to have a segment done on MLG itself. Nevertheless its great to see MLG getting recognized.