Halo Reach Faults

[itzcritty]

This seems to come up in alot of forum so I figured why not just dedicate one to it. Just talk about your likes and dislikes with Halo Reach and what you hope to see in the next ones to come.

I feel as if Halo is not actually halo if you are not playing as the Master Chief. To me this is what Halo is all about. Also I am very disappointed that there is no longer a BR to use, instead we have the single shot DMR...I've heard it from everyone about how b/c Reach takes place before Halo CE that, that means there should be no BR. Well this is crap to me...if thats the case explain why star wars 4-6 look like a pile of crap graphic and technology wise compared to 1-3 (dont mean to get nerdy, just a good example).

and there is my rant lol.

your thoughts?

[americanbash]

I can completely understand your reasoning. I don't really have any issues with Reach or any of the different Halo's. Each one are separate parts to the Halo Universe. Yes there will be a lot of disputes about which halo is better or what needs isn't good or what is. I am more of a adaptive gamer where I will change my gameplay to whatever game. AS LONG AS IT ISNT TOO HUMAN. But that is me and I am a huge fan of the Halo series and just can't get enough of it.

[iiicopenhagen]

Yea i miss the BR too :( but i love reach all in all.

[TLN Darkside]

Star wars 1-3 looked vastly superior in every way to 4-6 because they were made 22 years apart and were able to use technology that nobody had developed yet for movie production while the originals were created. /Rant lol.

Don't get me wrong, other games have justified more significant changes better then Bungie did with the removal of the BR. You can make a super human suit, but not a gun that shoots 3 bullets at a time....suuuure. But thats not the point, they wanted to change the way the game was played and give it a different feel, and imo the DMR is the better weapon. In H3 more often then not, the person that got first shot always won the battle, unless they were just bad. In Reach, there are so many more ways you can go about shooting it changes the strategy much more. The BR got stale, everyone can pickup the BR and use it, not everyone can pick up the DMR and use it.

As for not playing as Master Chief, I like that. Especially when you think of it from a Multiplayer standpoint, in H3 there were 8 MCs on a map fighting each other? Its more realistic to me in Reach of having my own Spartan that I customize and is unique to me.

I'm not bashing your opinions at all, just my thoughts on it.

[gazurk]

I think we should be able to use the BR or the DMR at our prefrence.

[itzcritty]

Star wars 1-3 looked vastly superior in every way to 4-6 because they were made 22 years apart and were able to use technology that nobody had developed yet for movie production while the originals were created. /Rant lol.

could you not make the same arguement w/ halo being space apart for 3 years. and the 22 years is from the 3rd to the sixth, vast difference from 3 and 4

and Im not saying your wrong or Im right, Im just saying that Master Chief is the face of the Halo Franchise and TO ME it is not even halo anymore...if you want to incorporate CoD-like features into your video game don't ruin what is already special about your game...just make a completely new series in my opinion.

Although I do enjoy Reach on most occasions, I just fell its not even really Halo

[Briimstone]

Don't get me wrong, other games have justified more significant changes better then Bungie did with the removal of the BR. You can make a super human suit, but not a gun that shoots 3 bullets at a time....suuuure. But thats not the point, they wanted to change the way the game was played and give it a different feel, and imo the DMR is the better weapon. In H3 more often then not, the person that got first shot always won the battle, unless they were just bad. In Reach, there are so many more ways you can go about shooting it changes the strategy much more. The BR got stale, everyone can pickup the BR and use it, not everyone can pick up the DMR and use it.



Really? I think the DMR is easier to use. Even though you had to lead shots in 3, I still found it more consistent than the DMR. I also do not think the BR was easier to use than the DMR. Not everyone could just pick up a BR and have an amazing shot. But in Reach, I find myself and others missing alot less shots, just the bloom gets in the way haha. I can't tell you which one of my friends has a better DMR than another one, but I can tell you who has a better BR. DMR fights seem too random to me to tell who is actually superior.

tl;dr BR>DMR

But really, I do like Reach. I basically have the same problems as the OP haha.

[Americ4n Psych0]

Really? I think the DMR is easier to use. Even though you had to lead shots in 3, I still found it more consistent than the DMR. I also do not think the BR was easier to use than the DMR. Not everyone could just pick up a BR and have an amazing shot. But in Reach, I find myself and others missing alot less shots, just the bloom gets in the way haha. I can't tell you which one of my friends has a better DMR than another one, but I can tell you who has a better BR. DMR fights seem too random to me to tell who is actually superior.

tl;dr BR>DMR

But really, I do like Reach. I basically have the same problems as the OP haha.

Agreed. There are times when I know my shots should be registering, and they just dont. I'm on the same connection as I've always been, yet never had the issue with Halo 3.

[itzcritty]

^^ Ya i feel like the bloom takes some of the skill away b/c even if your redicule is right on their head you can miss the shot if the bloom is too big for the distance...kinda frustrating to me

[Briimstone]

^^ Ya i feel like the bloom takes some of the skill away b/c even if your redicule is right on their head you can miss the shot if the bloom is too big for the distance...kinda frustrating to me

Yea for sure. I wish they had just made a hitscan BR. That would be awesome.

[mrkillboy]

Why do people keep making the same shitty thread, about how bad reach is, how good it is, what they like or dislike.

It's getting old.

[itzcritty]

Why do people keep making the same shitty thread, about how bad reach is, how good it is, what they like or dislike.

It's getting old.

its the first one Ive seen and if you dont want to comment dont troll and be a douche to the people that do...thanks

[mrkillboy]

I'm not trolling or being a douche, I'm speaking my mind. :]

[itzcritty]

I'm not trolling or being a douche, I'm speaking my mind. :]

Which has nothing to do w/ the thread...no wonder you get so many complaints

[svsudden]

DMR = Frustration

[StarfishDTR]

The thing I really dislike is the bloom. You are supposed to time shots for more accurate hits but when I lanned reach, everyone turned into a spammy mcspammer and all the shots were accurate :"(

[Sinstar94]

Sorry for the off-topic post but the newest Star Wars movies don't look that great...in fact I'd argue the effects of the original movies are superior. In 4-6 the effects were ground breaking for the time and mostly practical effects. It becomes easier to believe that the events of the film are really happening because you can see that the characters and objects are there and occupy space. In the newest ones you know you're looking at CGI. And what's even worse is that it's CGI with little to no substance.

[itzcritty]

Sorry for the off-topic post but the newest Star Wars movies don't look that great...in fact I'd argue the effects of the original movies are superior. In 4-6 the effects were ground breaking for the time and mostly practical effects. It becomes easier to believe that the events of the film are really happening because you can see that the characters and objects are there and occupy space. In the newest ones you know you're looking at CGI. And what's even worse is that it's CGI with little to no substance.

Ill take CGI over a midget in a trashcan (R2D2) anyday, but this is rly supposed to be about Reach

[D Moralize]

the DMR was created because people didnt like that Halo 3 wasnt hit scan, but with a hit scan BR you dont really have to aim as much, basically when you pull the trigger you have about a second to point it at their bosy and i you ddo so its a hit, and they didnt want to bring that back

[TLN Darkside]

Sorry for the off-topic post but the newest Star Wars movies don't look that great...in fact I'd argue the effects of the original movies are superior. In 4-6 the effects were ground breaking for the time and mostly practical effects. It becomes easier to believe that the events of the film are really happening because you can see that the characters and objects are there and occupy space. In the newest ones you know you're looking at CGI. And what's even worse is that it's CGI with little to no substance.

Im in the same boat as you, I dig the originals over the newer ones. Gotta rep with with gamers from NY :)

[Eclipse]

The story behind halo.

Halo CE was originally going to be a game for the PC/mac. Before it was officially announced for those systems Microsoft, at this point in time was about to lose the console war, Picked up the game for the xbox and got bungie to sign a few contracts holding them to the Halo name. If it was not for this game, and a few others, there would probably not be an XBOX 360. Understanding that this game was a leap of faith, Bungie had no REAL intentions in making a Halo 2.

After the success of Halo: CE Bungie goes to work on Halo 2, then Halo 3.

The oddities (Halo Reach, ODST)

ODST was made to answer the question what happened to earth during Halo 2.

Reach was made to help develop the storyline behind Halo: CE. Answering the Question, What is Reach, and why is it so important that it fell to the covanant(sp?)?

And if you read the Book The Fall of Reach, you would understand why MC is not a playable character.

[xMortyZx]

Eclipse; sorry I know this is off the topic of the thread but I just can't help myself. Wasn't MasterChief present for the fall of planet REACH? I know he was in space running ops and sent part of his team down to the planet's surface (picks up that portion in FIRST STRIKE). Not calling you out buddy; just seeking clarification.

I personally get extemely frustrated with some aspects of REACH's gameplay but I think those are my own faults I have yet to work out and not the game designers issues. And that draws from the amount of time I played CE through H3 vrs. REACH. I do love the challenge in mastering the DMR weapon system and its differences compared to the BR. I remember the original bitching about the strength of the BR in H3 when it originally came out. Alot of the complaints generally sound the same.

[Eclipse]

Eclipse; sorry I know this is off the topic of the thread but I just can't help myself. Wasn't MasterChief present for the fall of planet REACH? I know he was in space running ops and sent part of his team down to the planet's surface (picks up that portion in FIRST STRIKE). Not calling you out buddy; just seeking clarification.



I'm not sure, but most of the book is about how the Spartan II started, and it touches on a few things that Master Chief did, but he didn't do enough to make him the main character. But as I recall First Strike is about the time gap between Halo CE and Halo 2 so your reasoning with saying that book seems wrong. Again I haven't read the books in about 3-4 years so I don't remember every tiny detail.

[itzcritty]

The story behind halo.

Halo CE was originally going to be a game for the PC/mac. Before it was officially announced for those systems Microsoft, at this point in time was about to lose the console war, Picked up the game for the xbox and got bungie to sign a few contracts holding them to the Halo name. If it was not for this game, and a few others, there would probably not be an XBOX 360. Understanding that this game was a leap of faith, Bungie had no REAL intentions in making a Halo 2.

After the success of Halo: CE Bungie goes to work on Halo 2, then Halo 3.

The oddities (Halo Reach, ODST)

ODST was made to answer the question what happened to earth during Halo 2.

Reach was made to help develop the storyline behind Halo: CE. Answering the Question, What is Reach, and why is it so important that it fell to the covanant(sp?)?

And if you read the Book The Fall of Reach, you would understand why MC is not a playable character.

I did read fall of reach...and it makes a good book not a video game, and BTW in that book MC was the main character...

[Jewjitsu]

I played halo 3 a couple of weeks ago, and i sucked with the BR. It is so much harder to use than the dmr. In halo 3, it was the more skilled player who won the battles. In reach online, its whoever has the better connection, or on LAN, its whoever can spam and get lucky. Ive said this many times, but i think that there should be no luck in halo, it should be all skill/teamwork. Reach has too much luck involved because of bloom, that it takes away from the fun of the game. The other halos had better maps, the weapons were more fun to use, and there was very little luck. Thats what made them so good and fun to play for hours on end

Not to mention the horrific shot registration online. yesterday i played a game, 3 people on the other team quit and the fourth guy wasn't playing. I was scoped in, and paced 5 shots perfectly into his head. the first four hit. the fifth one didn't. i don't even understand how that's possible. The guy wasn't moving!!! next time he spawned, i spammed 5 shots at him, they all hit, and the 5th one was a headshot. this game is retarded.

[MidKnight]

shots that dont count when you spray, grrrrr

[xMortyZx]

I'm not sure, but most of the book is about how the Spartan II started, and it touches on a few things that Master Chief did, but he didn't do enough to make him the main character. But as I recall First Strike is about the time gap between Halo CE and Halo 2 so your reasoning with saying that book seems wrong. Again I haven't read the books in about 3-4 years so I don't remember every tiny detail.

I'm just not making myself clear boss. I was attempting to say that FIRST STRIKE picked up where Fall of REACH (FoR) left off with regards to the Spartans on the ground (not saying you could make a game out of 117's exploits in FoR or FS). And yes, FoR was all about the Spartan II program and the beginnings of 117. And I'm in agreement with you regarding the history of Bungie.

I like that REACH introduced us to a new line of characters in the Halo universe. I really enjoy the aspect of REACH in being able to personalize your spartan. I certainly don't like connectivity issues when playing. There have been numerous times when I die due to that fact alone. But it goes both ways. I'm sure I have fought a more skillful player and won thanks to connection. Not saying this is right. I would love to play the game on a LAN but have not had the opportunity as of yet.

[Waterboy7]

I will try to clear up all the book questions later, I do not have enough time to explain to you guys the details, but some are a bit off and others way off ;)

I have read the books numerous times @ work, so i will get to them on the week end. Post If you have others. I know all of the Halo universe knowledge, and for the Record -The BR DID exist on Reach-. You can find that on the book "Evolutions" which is a series of mini-stories through different time lines. I just get frustrated when people say that the BR is not on Reach because the game is a prequel.

[itzcritty]

...I just get frustrated when people say that the BR is not on Reach because the game is a prequel.

join the club

[XrossFire]

Critty u b trollin. :) lol