havkin i don't like him either lol, but more so because me and my friend had a big instinct-dynasty rivalry haha. i thought he was a very good player though, he may have pushed a little, but someone had to. he's competetive, but just has to learnt o take the bad and breathe through it. on the other hand hysteria i don't like at all, ever since warriors (with goofy and noob) beat td in game 11 and hysteria wouldnt shake hands and was trash talking. you lost, get over yourself, you're not the best. even though i like others on td i always root for them to lose because of him. don't know much about apg's attitude though. anyways, i am hoping for the 2008 str8 to reform, however who knows if they will. until then, gotta stick with instinct but i do like sya a lot. always nice to see the underdogs perform, especially since they're come so far to get where they are. first reach lan will be an awesome event. can't wait to see how totz does with instinct. legit-t2-snipedown-elamite...please